[18:25 UTC] *** Logging started. *** [11:25 AM PT] Ubit Umarov: welcome all :) [11:26 AM PT] Ubit Umarov: about last week code changes, not many... [11:26 AM PT] Ubit Umarov: just a littel change on a experimental thing [11:26 AM PT] Ubit Umarov: and jsut a few minutes ago some small changes made by Vicent :) [11:28 AM PT] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: I have found vs22 is a lot more aggressive with formatting, been clogging up my commit dialog with all sorts of spaces and indentations [11:28 AM PT] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Might just do a whole cleanup commit at some point get all of that out of the way heh [11:29 AM PT] Lyr Lobo: wb [11:29 AM PT] Ubit Umarov: oops [11:29 AM PT] Ubit Umarov: wrong button [11:29 AM PT] Lyr Lobo chuckles [11:29 AM PT] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: lol I do that all the time [11:29 AM PT] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: WB noob :) [11:32 AM PT] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: I was curious if there is a timeline for making a 0.9.3 release (dotnet) [11:33 AM PT] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Same timeline as winning the lottery I guess [11:33 AM PT] Orbert.Tatham @hg.zetaworlds.com: Backside of never? [11:34 AM PT] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Could be any day or another year, somewhat depends on what goes on [11:34 AM PT] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: ok :) [11:35 AM PT] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: At the moment there are still a few things up in the air so making a release now would not go over so well. Timing always been to align with viewers to a point both stay in sync for some time afterwards [11:36 AM PT] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: I see, thanks for explaining [11:36 AM PT] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: Its too bed we don;t have closer contact with viewer developers, you would think thet would want to work closely [11:37 AM PT] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: It could be better, but there is definitely contact happening [11:37 AM PT] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: oh thats good [11:37 AM PT] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: I'll be right back [11:38 AM PT] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: If you follow say Firestorm though their commit log is a mess of merging LL code so I don't doubt they spend most of their time just trying to make sense of it all [11:38 AM PT] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Did get some things looked at recently so that's progress. Suppose they are in the same boat as we are just waiting on what the next direction is [11:39 AM PT] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: When I asked about making improvements to search I was told it was legacy stuff they won't touch and all will likely be websearch soon, which is a bummer, but suppose makes it easier in other ways [11:42 AM PT] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: We could be making all sorts of changes if viewers tagged along, lots of stuff has already been written in ways that are easy to extend [11:45 AM PT] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: I guess we are all stuck trying to keep it all SL compatible [11:45 AM PT] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: which is a good thing but limiting [11:45 AM PT] Orbert.Tatham @hg.zetaworlds.com: The longer I am in these meetings, the more I disagree with that statement [11:47 AM PT] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: well, pros and cons to both directions [11:47 AM PT] Orbert.Tatham @hg.zetaworlds.com: LL is doing their damndest to make it impossible anyway [11:49 AM PT] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: they always have [11:49 AM PT] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Wish when they copy our ideas to at least do it properly and not make such a mess, but it's always been like that [11:49 AM PT] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Surprised they have no copied var regions... by making mega regions heh [11:52 AM PT] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: Is there an approachable FS developer I could reach out to about the HG TP multiple-HTTP issue? The one that breaks name-based authentication. Perhaps I could learn something and fix my auth module [11:53 AM PT] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Beq does OpenSim handling, did you not open a jira ticket with them already? [11:53 AM PT] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: Nobody ober there responded to my Jira bug report [11:53 AM PT] Ubit Umarov: yeah jira is the "oficial way to talk those issues" [11:53 AM PT] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: months ago [11:54 AM PT] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Might not be easy fix and lower priority, it sometimes takes a while before they look at things [11:55 AM PT] Ubit Umarov: as you seen the skipwhitespace means also \n [11:55 AM PT] Ubit Umarov: if (c == ' ' || c == '\t' || c == '\n' || c == '\r') { reader.Read(); continue; [11:56 AM PT] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: helloskipwhitespaceworld [11:56 AM PT] Ubit Umarov: oops [11:56 AM PT] Ubit Umarov: taht was for im :) [11:57 AM PT] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: Maybe I will try sending a message to Beq [11:57 AM PT] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: thx [11:58 AM PT] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: I'd help ya look, but the viewer code is too abstract for my brain [11:58 AM PT] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Like me some readable c# :) [11:58 AM PT] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: The question is more about expected protocol and reasons [11:59 AM PT] Ubit Umarov: but what multiple http issue? [11:59 AM PT] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: reasons for 3 HTTP requests with only the 3rd containing credentials [11:59 AM PT] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: we talked about it at length here a few months ago [11:59 AM PT] Ubit Umarov: think fs may still have the triple bug i seen [11:59 AM PT] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: let me see if I can find the Jira [12:00 PM PT] Ubit Umarov: it does repeat several things 3 times with submilisecond delay [12:00 PM PT] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: problem isn;t so much the multiple requets as the creds only sent in the 3rd [12:00 PM PT] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: thats the part I dont get, and which breaks things [12:00 PM PT] Ubit Umarov: but only seen that on some messages to regions [12:01 PM PT] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: https://jira.firestormviewer.org/browse/FIRE-32679 [12:02 PM PT] Ubit Umarov: well if there, one day they may see it :) [12:03 PM PT] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: but a good convo with a developer might clear up the reasons for, or provide insight for a workaround [12:04 PM PT] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: ok, well, I'll try to reacjh out to beq, thanks [12:06 PM PT] Ubit Umarov: so any other issue for this meeting? [12:07 PM PT] Ubit Umarov: Ok so thanks everyone, see you next week, if not before :) [12:08 PM PT] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: does beq hang out at all in OS-dev IRC? [12:08 PM PT] Orbert.Tatham @hg.zetaworlds.com: Thanks Ubit [19:08 UTC] *** Logging stopped. ***